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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:59:00 -
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Fark, I bought popcorn for this weekend instead of tinfoil.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:13:00 -
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Hevymetal wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Fark, I bought popcorn for this weekend instead of tinfoil.
Buy Jiffypop like I do. Then you get the best of both worlds. The tinfoil container used to cook the popcorn on the stove recycles nicely into hats.
 BRILLIANT
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:26:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote:
Now if the individual was buying up plex with illegitimate isk and then trashing them, that would be a problem, but I am utterly too tired to reach for my :tinfoil:
This COULD be happening. It is POSSIBLE that CCP creates "throw away" accounts to buy PLEX from the market with instantly materialized through GM/DEV code, without the work put in to generate the ISK, and then delete it to remove the supply of lower priced PLEX to leave the remaining PLEX at a higher, more desireable for CCP price. I bet you believe in Chemtrails too.
Hey! You can actually see a chemtrail. 
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:20:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:But at the same time, it works both ways. The isk price needs to be low enough for the PLEX purchasers to feel that they'll get a return on their investment, but they want it to be worth more to make their investment more valuable. It's all about trying to find the most people are willing to pay.
With PLEX right now being sold at 740million, that could be enticing people who don't already have PLEX in supply to buy plex, which is a benefit to CCP. GǪexcept that this isn't happening. Again, and I'll keep repeating this until it sinks in: they were desirable to buy at a quarter the price and if anything, lower ISK prices means people will have to buy more of them to make up for their ISK needs. The trade volume at 740M is the same as it were at 540M GÇö there is no visible GÇ£enticementGÇ¥ from the higher price. So all that is happening is that the higher price makes people shut down their accounts, which inevitably translates into lost money for CCP. I never said they weren't desirable enough to be bought. I stated that PLEX being sold for more isk makes PLEX MORE desirable than a PLEX worth less ISK.
The trade data (which is available to anyone via the market) shows that PLEX volume is not reflecting that position. Volume would need to increase under your assumption.
Your position assumes the seller of the PLEX in-game is the driving force of the PLEX Market, but it's the consumer as usual that drives the market.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:40:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
You can state with certainty about how many PLEX are being traded within the confines of the EvE universe, PLEX for ISK.
But you cannot state with certainty about how many PLEX are being bought from CCP with money.
All PLEX are purchased from CCP with real money, and it's safe to assume that the total number being bought for cash is greater than or equal to the number being traded.
Any players "holding" PLEX benefit when they either redeem or sell them, the former has no bearing on your position. If players holding PLEX sell them, the isk value will decrease as volume increases.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:50:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:No, it proves that it's possible.
O.K. I see..
Is CCP CAPABLE of what you are suggesting? Sure, I would not put anything past them.
Are they actually DOING it? The evidence says no, and it would be very bad for them when it was discovered, this is spreadsheets online after all..
/wonders if the quickie-mart on the corner sells jiffy-pop.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:16:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:So it's proven you don't know what you can't know, but you believe strongly.
OK cool, it's nice to see you finally acknowledge that you can't know the unknowable. Price history charts are available in the game client, dumbass. Do you even economics? Did you know that the Price History charts only show what happens through the EvE market? It does not take contracts into consideration. It does not take player to player trades into consideration.
What percentage of total PLEX traded would you accept as a viable value for these "private" trades between player entities?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:22:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
What percentage of total PLEX traded would you accept as a realistic value for these "private" trades between player entities?
What I feel would be a percentage to determine a realistic value is inconsequential because ultimately, who am I? CCP could answer all of the questions with their facts, being the deciding factor on what is and what isn't. Anything in the mean time is pure speculation, because we are not given the tools necessary to know for a fact what the truth is.
O.K. so how exactly are you coming to your conclusions without real data or even extrapolated data?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:43:00 -
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Invisusira wrote:When you type "CCP" in Wingdings, you get two thumbs up.... and a white flag.
COINCIDENCE?
Wow!
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.19 16:34:00 -
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Assuming for a minute that PLEX are being purchased as an investment (as has been hinted at previously), it would be in CCP's best interest to keep prices low as investors in most commodities do not hoard or hold when prices are high.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.21 16:56:00 -
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I don't want to alarm anyone, but have you folks seen the price of bacon lately?
I don't want to have to choose between bacon and EVE because that delicious pork candy is a monkey I just can't shake.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
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